Comments on: Red light cameras in the Volunteer State: unsafe, unconstitutional, and unnecessary http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/09/23/red-light-cameras-in-the-volunteer-state-unsafe-unconstitutional-and-unnecessary/ The voice of Clarksville, Tennessee Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:33:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bill Larson http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/09/23/red-light-cameras-in-the-volunteer-state-unsafe-unconstitutional-and-unnecessary/comment-page-1/#comment-10617 Bill Larson Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:48:18 +0000 http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/?p=9657#comment-10617 Lobbying, Referendums, political pressure, electing camera opponents, informing the public are all means of effecting change. Get involved and stay involved! The issue is these fines are not ran through normal courts instead they use what's known as an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law_judge" rel="nofollow">administrative law judge</a>. Lobbying, Referendums, political pressure, electing camera opponents, informing the public are all means of effecting change. Get involved and stay involved!

The issue is these fines are not ran through normal courts instead they use what’s known as an administrative law judge.

]]> By: Wormser http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/09/23/red-light-cameras-in-the-volunteer-state-unsafe-unconstitutional-and-unnecessary/comment-page-1/#comment-10615 Wormser Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:52:49 +0000 http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/?p=9657#comment-10615 By the way... That was article VI section 14 on the fines By the way… That was article VI section 14 on the fines

]]> By: Wormser http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/09/23/red-light-cameras-in-the-volunteer-state-unsafe-unconstitutional-and-unnecessary/comment-page-1/#comment-10614 Wormser Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:51:04 +0000 http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/?p=9657#comment-10614 How do we get these cameras taken away? The courts are not on our side... they're thinking of the Counties interests, most of the time. If they were not, how then would they allow the State Constitution to be usurped? Moving these cases to civil courts, also because the state of Tennessee's constitution specifically says "No fine shall be laid on any citizen of this State that shall exceed fifty dollars, unless it shall be assessed by a jury of his peers, who shall assess the fine at the time they find the fact, if they think the fine should be more than fifty dollars. " If they can't get the fines up, they have to let civil court judges determine a "punitive" amount. Even judges are proving themselves to be crooked. How do we get these cameras taken away? The courts are not on our side… they’re thinking of the Counties interests, most of the time. If they were not, how then would they allow the State Constitution to be usurped? Moving these cases to civil courts, also because the state of Tennessee’s constitution specifically says “No fine shall be laid on any citizen of this State that shall exceed fifty dollars, unless it shall be assessed by a jury of his peers, who shall assess the fine at the time they find the fact, if they think the fine should be more than fifty dollars. ” If they can’t get the fines up, they have to let civil court judges determine a “punitive” amount. Even judges are proving themselves to be crooked.

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