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	<title>Comments on: The 3rd debate: Did McCain really say that?</title>
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		<title>By: David Cutting</title>
		<link>http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/10/22/the-third-debate-did-mccain-really-say-that/comment-page-1/#comment-10157</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cutting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate and agree with the commnets by Christine and jafreelance. 
What we also need in Clarksville, TN are more pre-kindergarten classrooms and more magnet schools. We must remind the politicians who allocate education funding that quality education pays for itself. With better educated residents in better paying jobs we have fewer criminals and a higher tax base, so spending cuts for quality education are both short-sighted and foolhardy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate and agree with the commnets by Christine and jafreelance.<br />
What we also need in Clarksville, TN are more pre-kindergarten classrooms and more magnet schools. We must remind the politicians who allocate education funding that quality education pays for itself. With better educated residents in better paying jobs we have fewer criminals and a higher tax base, so spending cuts for quality education are both short-sighted and foolhardy.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Anne Piesyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Anne Piesyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the 1980s, I have reviewed literally hundreds of applications for jobs and internships from aspiring writers and reporters, with an ever increasing inability on the part of applicants to fill out even the simplest application form correctly. I have watched as standardized testing lowered its standards to generate better achievement numbers rather than raising the expectation for student performance. I spent a ear intensively home-schooling my grandson, using creative idea to encourage critical thinking an addition to basic skills. It was a challenge for me, and I hold two degrees. 

McCain&#039;s support for certification exemptions for soldiers entering the teaching profession is ludicrous. In fact, I had to view the debate transcript to see what came next, because what I had just heard left me speechless and stunned. 

I am not diminishing what our troops may or may not have to offer; I am saying that many of  those with one, two, three or more extended deployments are coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq with issues; you cannot &quot;turn off&quot; life in a war zone by stepping back on American soil. It is documented that too many of our troops are coming with serious issues of PTSD and other mental health issues. That has to be dealt with first, and often it takes some time for symptoms to appear before treatment is obtained and the healing process can get underway.

But more importantly, teaching itself requires more than just topical knowledge or a desire to teach; it requires intellectual and practical skills in child and adolescent development and behavior, special education, a period of &quot;practice teaching&quot; to hone skills ... in addition to a wide base knowledge at the elementary level and perhaps a narrower but more intense &quot;subject&quot; (history, science, literature) knowledge at the high school level.

Teacher certifications, like assessment tests for student achievement, are in place for a reason: to assure a standard of quality teaching for our children.

Now I am not a fan of standardized testing, but they have a purpose. Ideally, I believe a student should master basic skills to a certain standard, but should also have an equally weighted  portfolio of work in which they excel (that would be different for every child based on their abilities and interests -- math, science, art etc) since there is no  one-size-fits-all in education. 

My personal feeling is that our basic standards are not yet high enough; that we should expect and demand more of both teachers and students if we wish to compete in a global market. That also means providing teachers and students the opportunity to have more internal supports, smaller class sizes, and the tools needed to educate our children. Teachers should not have to be buying their own supplies, as they do in many schools. 

Education is an investment, not a luxury item. Any higher upfront cost will reap benefits in the long haul. We need to to more than maintain the status quo; we need to raise the bar. Eliminating teacher certifications for any group is the first step back to the dark ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the 1980s, I have reviewed literally hundreds of applications for jobs and internships from aspiring writers and reporters, with an ever increasing inability on the part of applicants to fill out even the simplest application form correctly. I have watched as standardized testing lowered its standards to generate better achievement numbers rather than raising the expectation for student performance. I spent a ear intensively home-schooling my grandson, using creative idea to encourage critical thinking an addition to basic skills. It was a challenge for me, and I hold two degrees. </p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s support for certification exemptions for soldiers entering the teaching profession is ludicrous. In fact, I had to view the debate transcript to see what came next, because what I had just heard left me speechless and stunned. </p>
<p>I am not diminishing what our troops may or may not have to offer; I am saying that many of  those with one, two, three or more extended deployments are coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq with issues; you cannot &#8220;turn off&#8221; life in a war zone by stepping back on American soil. It is documented that too many of our troops are coming with serious issues of PTSD and other mental health issues. That has to be dealt with first, and often it takes some time for symptoms to appear before treatment is obtained and the healing process can get underway.</p>
<p>But more importantly, teaching itself requires more than just topical knowledge or a desire to teach; it requires intellectual and practical skills in child and adolescent development and behavior, special education, a period of &#8220;practice teaching&#8221; to hone skills &#8230; in addition to a wide base knowledge at the elementary level and perhaps a narrower but more intense &#8220;subject&#8221; (history, science, literature) knowledge at the high school level.</p>
<p>Teacher certifications, like assessment tests for student achievement, are in place for a reason: to assure a standard of quality teaching for our children.</p>
<p>Now I am not a fan of standardized testing, but they have a purpose. Ideally, I believe a student should master basic skills to a certain standard, but should also have an equally weighted  portfolio of work in which they excel (that would be different for every child based on their abilities and interests &#8212; math, science, art etc) since there is no  one-size-fits-all in education. </p>
<p>My personal feeling is that our basic standards are not yet high enough; that we should expect and demand more of both teachers and students if we wish to compete in a global market. That also means providing teachers and students the opportunity to have more internal supports, smaller class sizes, and the tools needed to educate our children. Teachers should not have to be buying their own supplies, as they do in many schools. </p>
<p>Education is an investment, not a luxury item. Any higher upfront cost will reap benefits in the long haul. We need to to more than maintain the status quo; we need to raise the bar. Eliminating teacher certifications for any group is the first step back to the dark ages.</p>
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		<title>By: jafreelance</title>
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		<dc:creator>jafreelance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does anyone expect from either McCain or his VP pick.Here is their education

The Republicans: John McCain graduated at the bottom of his class 894/899 at the U.S. Naval Academy. The Naval Academy is a tough school and demands both discipline and intellect. McCain has no graduate degree.

Sarah Palin took 6 years and transferred to at least 5 schools before receiving a degree in journalism at the University of Idaho. Again, no graduate degree. 

Obama and Biden feel All kids need an education and they believe that anyone that serves Our Country should be able to get a GI Bill to continue Schooling which McCain &#039;had&#039; voted against!

 Education for Obama/Biden
The candidate&#039;s educational background is in the public record.I for one, think education does matter in electing a leader. Barack Obama&#039;s Education: Graduated from Columbia University with a major in political science. Graduated Top of the Class from Harvard Law School. Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Spent 12 Years as a Constitutional Law Professor at the University of Chicago School of Law.

Joe Biden: Graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major of history and political science. Graduated from Syracuse University School of Law. Both Democratic candidates have advanced degrees and are well educated, articulate and intelligent. 

What does the American People want,ones running the Country with a A+ or D-??
About McCain and his POW Hero,All Pows are heroes
and that doesn&#039;t mean they are President Material or have the ability to lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does anyone expect from either McCain or his VP pick.Here is their education</p>
<p>The Republicans: John McCain graduated at the bottom of his class 894/899 at the U.S. Naval Academy. The Naval Academy is a tough school and demands both discipline and intellect. McCain has no graduate degree.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin took 6 years and transferred to at least 5 schools before receiving a degree in journalism at the University of Idaho. Again, no graduate degree. </p>
<p>Obama and Biden feel All kids need an education and they believe that anyone that serves Our Country should be able to get a GI Bill to continue Schooling which McCain &#8216;had&#8217; voted against!</p>
<p> Education for Obama/Biden<br />
The candidate&#8217;s educational background is in the public record.I for one, think education does matter in electing a leader. Barack Obama&#8217;s Education: Graduated from Columbia University with a major in political science. Graduated Top of the Class from Harvard Law School. Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Spent 12 Years as a Constitutional Law Professor at the University of Chicago School of Law.</p>
<p>Joe Biden: Graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major of history and political science. Graduated from Syracuse University School of Law. Both Democratic candidates have advanced degrees and are well educated, articulate and intelligent. </p>
<p>What does the American People want,ones running the Country with a A+ or D-??<br />
About McCain and his POW Hero,All Pows are heroes<br />
and that doesn&#8217;t mean they are President Material or have the ability to lead.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cutting</title>
		<link>http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/10/22/the-third-debate-did-mccain-really-say-that/comment-page-1/#comment-10152</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cutting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sending returning soldiers into our schools as teachers, without certification, is incredulous, both to my wife, a former teacher, and me. I home-schooled only one of my (now adult) six children, and that was for three years, due to an illness she suffered. Should the moronic scheme of having unqualified and untrained soldiers teach our children ever be adopted, I would immediately home-school my two youngest children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sending returning soldiers into our schools as teachers, without certification, is incredulous, both to my wife, a former teacher, and me. I home-schooled only one of my (now adult) six children, and that was for three years, due to an illness she suffered. Should the moronic scheme of having unqualified and untrained soldiers teach our children ever be adopted, I would immediately home-school my two youngest children.</p>
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