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	<title>Comments on: The “Secret Ballot” Myth and the Employee Free Choice Act</title>
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		<title>By: redhatrob</title>
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		<dc:creator>redhatrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Specifically, Section 2 (a,6) says that if a majority indicates that they wish to have a union, that they should have it and that there need not be an election.&quot;

Gee... why don&#039;t we do this for local mayors and city councils, too? Sure would save money. First candidate to get 50% of the voters to sign their petition gets to be mayor. And everybody&#039;s signature will be public, so everyone in your neighborhood will know how you &quot;voted.&quot; 

Peace and harmony abounding...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Specifically, Section 2 (a,6) says that if a majority indicates that they wish to have a union, that they should have it and that there need not be an election.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee&#8230; why don&#8217;t we do this for local mayors and city councils, too? Sure would save money. First candidate to get 50% of the voters to sign their petition gets to be mayor. And everybody&#8217;s signature will be public, so everyone in your neighborhood will know how you &#8220;voted.&#8221; </p>
<p>Peace and harmony abounding&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Naccarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Naccarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Ortho - I&#039;ll say it right here since I didn&#039;t in my article...

When it comes down to actually voting on an item, the vote is private.

I agree with you.  Does that mean I have a &quot;left-wing bias&quot;?

In any case, the privacy of the vote has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote or what is actually in the Employee Free Choice Act legislation.  Here&#039;s the link, if you want to read it yourself:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1409:

Specifically, Section 2 (a,6) says that if a majority indicates that they wish to have a union, that they should have it and that there need not be an election.

So Ortho, I do believe that the vote is sacred and should be private (even though both political parties hold caucus elections that require a show of hands, as do most corporate boards), but you&#039;ve been fooled into thinking that the secret ballot is somehow &quot;at risk&quot; with EFCA.  It&#039;s not.  All the bill does is permit employees to sidestep an election if a majority of them are in agreement that they want a union.  I&#039;ve already explained why that&#039;s needed (management uses that time period to intimidate, bribe, and fire people) and that the real threat is the loss of Management&#039;s control over the process.

And I am not hoping to &quot;win over any moderates&quot; with how I &quot;word my articles&quot;.  I am telling the truth about the legislation, which is not what the EFCA opponents have done.  I have faith in &quot;moderates&quot; to make the right decision once they have all the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Ortho &#8211; I&#8217;ll say it right here since I didn&#8217;t in my article&#8230;</p>
<p>When it comes down to actually voting on an item, the vote is private.</p>
<p>I agree with you.  Does that mean I have a &#8220;left-wing bias&#8221;?</p>
<p>In any case, the privacy of the vote has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote or what is actually in the Employee Free Choice Act legislation.  Here&#8217;s the link, if you want to read it yourself:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1409"   rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1409</a>:</p>
<p>Specifically, Section 2 (a,6) says that if a majority indicates that they wish to have a union, that they should have it and that there need not be an election.</p>
<p>So Ortho, I do believe that the vote is sacred and should be private (even though both political parties hold caucus elections that require a show of hands, as do most corporate boards), but you&#8217;ve been fooled into thinking that the secret ballot is somehow &#8220;at risk&#8221; with EFCA.  It&#8217;s not.  All the bill does is permit employees to sidestep an election if a majority of them are in agreement that they want a union.  I&#8217;ve already explained why that&#8217;s needed (management uses that time period to intimidate, bribe, and fire people) and that the real threat is the loss of Management&#8217;s control over the process.</p>
<p>And I am not hoping to &#8220;win over any moderates&#8221; with how I &#8220;word my articles&#8221;.  I am telling the truth about the legislation, which is not what the EFCA opponents have done.  I have faith in &#8220;moderates&#8221; to make the right decision once they have all the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: ortho2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>ortho2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds as though I agree with most of what the bill states.  I am a simple man though.  Why can&#039;t it say that when it comes down to actually voting on an item that the vote is private.  That way no one knows how someone may have voted on way or the other. Your left wing bias won&#039;t win over any moderates with the way you word your articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds as though I agree with most of what the bill states.  I am a simple man though.  Why can&#8217;t it say that when it comes down to actually voting on an item that the vote is private.  That way no one knows how someone may have voted on way or the other. Your left wing bias won&#8217;t win over any moderates with the way you word your articles.</p>
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